Commission Meeting

of



NEW JERSEY COMMISSION ON

CAPITAL BUDGETING AND PLANNING



"Capital Budgeting and Planning Teleconference Commission Meeting"






LOCATION: Conference Room

33 West State Street

Trenton, New Jersey

DATE: April 23, 1999

10:00 a.m.





MEMBERS OF COMMISSION PRESENT:

B. Carol Molnar, Chair

Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr.

Assemblyman Francis J. Blee

Assemblyman Louis A. Romano

Michael R. Ferrara

Margaret M. Villane

Anthony F. Annese

Robert A. Roth



ALSO PRESENT:

David M. Mortimer

(representing James A. DiEleuterio Jr.)

Paul Shidlowski, Acting Executive Director

New Jersey Commission on Capital Budgeting and Planning

Charles Chianese

Executive Director

New Jersey Building Authority 5



Anthony R. Mazzella

Assistant Director

Office of Property and Lease Negotiations

Division of Property Management and Construction

New Jersey Department of the Treasury 6



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(The New Jersey Commission on Capital Budgeting and Planning held a teleconference meeting on April 23 at 10:00 a.m. Members of the Commission present at 33 West State Street were Michael R. Ferrara; Margaret M. Villane; and Paul Shidlowski, Acting Executive Director. Members of the Commission present via teleconference were B. Carol Molnar, Chair; Senator Bernard F. Kenny Jr.; Assemblyman Francis J. Blee; Assemblyman Louis A. Romano; Anthony F. Annese; Robert A. Roth; David M. Mortimer, representing James A. DiEleuterio Jr.)



TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Would you like a roll call, Mr. Shidlowski?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI (Acting Executive Director): I would, please. Thank you.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Ms. Molnar.

B. CAROL MOLNAR (Chair): Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

And Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Here.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Thank you.

Can you hear them all right, Mr. Shidlowski?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Yes, I can.

Thank you.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: Okay.

And if you do need to bring an operator back on line, Mr. Shidlowski, as the host you can hit the pound symbol and then zero. It will summon an operator directly onto the call.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay.

Thank you very much.

TELEPHONE OPERATOR: You're welcome.

MS. MOLNAR: Paul, do we have a quorum?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: We do have a quorum, Carol.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

I guess I'll call the meeting to order at 10:20. I'd like to wish you all good morning and thank you for taking the time to do this call.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Shall I read the Open Public Meeting's notice?

MS. MOLNAR: Yes, please.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: In accordance with Public Law Chapter 231, Open Public Meeting law, the Commission has provided adequate public notice of this meeting by giving written notice of time, date, and location. The notice of the meeting has been filed at least 48 hours in advance by mail or fax to the Trenton Times and the Star-Ledger and filed with the Office of the Secretary of State.

MS. MOLNAR: Thank you.

Could you take the roll call again because I didn't hear who's on?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay.

I would like to emphasize to everybody participating in the call that before you speak you need to identify yourself so that we can maintain an accurate transcript.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Davidoff. (no response)

Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Littell. (no response)

Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer, representing Treasurer DiEleuterio.

MR. MORTIMER: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Commissioner Janice Mintz. (no response)

Ms. Margaret Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Michael Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Carol Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Here.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: We have a quorum, Madam Chair.

MS. MOLNAR: Thank you.

Eight people? Nine?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Nine.

MS. MOLNAR: Nine. Okay. All right.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: I would suggest that we go out of order from the transcript and go right to the--

MS. MOLNAR: Yes, I was going to say--

Let's go to Item No. 5 (referring to Commission agenda): Presentation by the New Jersey Building Authority on the projects identified as "Division of Revenue-State Police C Headquarters."

I want to thank Bob Roth for his comments that I got in the mail. I assume everyone got the fax that I got with the change made.

MR. ROTH: Thank you.

MS. MOLNAR: Thanks, Bob.

Now, do you want Charles Chianese to start the presentation?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Yes, I do.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

C H A R L E S C H I A N E S E: Thank you, Madam Chair.

Good morning. My name is Chuck Chianese. I am the Executive Director of the New Jersey Building Authority. On behalf of our clients, the Department of the Treasury and the Department of Law and Public Safety, the Authority is here this morning to request the Commission's consideration to approve the project report, which I believe you have before you, in which the Authority Board approved at its March 16th meeting.

The project requested essentially consists of constructing a Division of Revenue facility to allow for the consolidation of various operations of the Division of Revenue in a State Police Barracks Troop C Headquarters and Communication Center. Details of the project scope have been outlined in the project report that you have in front of you.

The Authority statute requires that we come before the Commission for consideration, after which a public hearing will be required, and as this Commission is aware, concurrent resolution by the Legislature before the Authority could proceed with any financing.

Here with me this morning to address any questions the Commission members may have: representing the Division of Revenue is Patricia Chiacchio; representing the Division of Property Management and Construction is Anthony Mazzella; and representing the Department of Law and Public Safety is Mike Simone (phonetic spelling). We would be happy to address any questions that Commission members may have at this time.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Carol.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: We're going to go right to questions.

MS. MOLNAR: It's okay. I did not have any questions.

Are there any members that would like some information?

MS. VILLANE: I have a question. This is Maggie Villane.

Do we have any idea where the location of this building is going to be built?

A N T H O N Y R. M A Z Z E L L A: This is Anthony Mazzella. We don't have specific location at this point. We advertised in local papers as well as the Internet recently. We had identified nine individual parcels that had been previously noted for sale through an in-house search, and the advertisement identified three additional sites. We're going through a preliminary evaluation of them and will be preparing a series of recommendations in priority order as to the appropriate ability of each of these sites to meet our requirements.

MS. VILLANE: Do we know what the cost of the building would be?

MR. MAZZELLA: The project in total has been estimated at approximately $55 million.

MS. VILLANE: And who did that estimate?

MR. MAZZELLA: Office of Design and Construction provided the construction cost estimates premised on scopes that worked -- that have been developed both from a previous project, and that being, I believe, is Troop A Headquarters in South Jersey, as well as construction cost estimates associated with 175,000-square-foot building for the Division of Revenue. The Office of Property and Lease Negotiations provided input as to due diligence cost, as well as an estimate cost for the procurement of the property.

MS. VILLANE: Were the clients, meaning the Division of Revenue and the Division of the New Jersey State Police, included in those design documents and the scopes of work?

MR. MAZZELLA: Yes.

Just to clarify, the State Police Headquarters facility will be almost identical with some improvements recommended by State Police that was to the design that was utilized for the Troop A Headquarters.

MS. MOLNAR: Is that a single-story structure? This is Chair Molnar.

MR. MAZZELLA: I believe it is.

MS. VILLANE: What was the square footage again?

MR. MAZZELLA: Of?

MS. VILLANE: The building.

MR. MAZZELLA: The Revenue building is approximately 175,000--

MS. VILLANE: No. The new building you're going to build.

MR. MAZZELLA: The State Police facility?

MS. VILLANE: Yes.

MR. MORTIMER: There are two new buildings. This is Dave Mortimer.

MR. MAZZELLA: Yes. There are two buildings.

MS. VILLANE: Okay.

MR. MORTIMER: There are two new buildings, Maggie.

MS. VILLANE: Okay. What's the square footage of the revenue building?

MR. MORTIMER: One hundred, seventy-five thousand square feet.

MS. VILLANE: And what's the square footage of the State Police?

MR. MAZZELLA: Sixty-six thousand.

MS. VILLANE: Okay.

Thank you.

MS. MOLNAR: What was the answer to that?

MR. MAZZELLA: Sixty-six thousand square feet for the Troop A Headquarters including their communications.

MS. MOLNAR: That's all -- 66,000?

MR. MAZZELLA: Yes.

MS. MOLNAR: Does that include the heliport, etc.?

MR. MORTIMER: No. That's on the ground.

MS. MOLNAR: Oh, this is pure building. The building is 66,000 square feet, and Revenue would be 175,000 square feet.

MR. MAZZELLA: Yes. Our total lot requirements, Madam Chair, total approximately 30 acres.

MS. MOLNAR: Thirty acres. Okay.

MR. FERRARA: Mike Ferrara speaking.

One clarification. In looking at the project report, it's 66,000 for the State Police Headquarters and an additional 15,000 for the Communications Center. So I believe it's a total of -- if I'm reading this right, the Communications Center will require an additional 15,000 square feet of building space. So I believe it's 15, plus 66, plus 175 is the total square footage.

MS. MOLNAR: Oh, okay.

Is that correct?

MR. MORTIMER: Yes. That's correct.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Madam Chair?

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Assemblyman Romano.

I wonder if, through you, I might be able to address Senator Kenny.

MS. MOLNAR: Sure.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: I understand there have been some conversations between yourself and the Treasurer regarding, I believe, our immediate concern, that while we had broad discussions about the State Police Headquarters and Communication Center project that we did not recall any extensive conversation about the Division of Revenue. As I spoke to the Treasurer, he had indicated that it was mentioned but that there -- it was not really elaborated. Are you satisfied with that, Senator?

SENATOR KENNY: I met with the Treasurer yesterday and with staff, and I do agree that there was probably insufficient emphasis on it.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: But that it was there though.

SENATOR KENNY: It was there, but it was not -- it should have been handled better.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Okay. Okay. I agree.

Madam Chair--

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: --my second point. I have to assume by the Open Public Meetings Act notice that the city of Trenton is aware of what this plan is all about. I note in some of the documents I received that the Mayor of Hamilton Township was amenable to the proposal. I was just curious, however, what does the Mayor of Trenton say, since they will be losing sites for employees who will now move over to Hamilton Township?

MS. MOLNAR: That was one of the questions I had, whether the State would continue using some of the buildings they're presently using for Revenue, let's say.

MR. MORTIMER: Madam Chair, this is Dave Mortimer.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. MORTIMER: The Treasurer met with both Mayor Rafferty from Hamilton and Mayor Palmer from Trenton outlining what was the 80,000-foot level. Obviously, the Mayor of Hamilton is very pleased with the possibility of this facility or these facilities. The Mayor of Trenton did raise some questions. He has some keen interest in the fact that some of these properties may, in fact, become -- put back on the tax roll, especially the building across from the Municipal Court in Trenton, which would certainly make another part of the urban development of the city more vital. He recognizes that the number of jobs that we're talking about and the total number of jobs within the city is insignificant.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: I have no further questions, Madam Chair.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

Any other questions? (no response)

One question I have, would there be a net savings to the State by vacating these buildings?

MR. MORTIMER: Yes. We've done some preliminary calculations for operational savings, which are the annual ongoing costs, and for Law and Public Safety, the Division of State Police, we anticipate about a $425,000-a-year operational savings. And for the Treasury Unit, depending upon what happens in terms of the building themselves and how quickly we are able to turn them over, we're looking at an operational savings between the central accounts for rent and the indirect cost of somewhere between a low of about 150,000 to potentially in excess of $1 million, depending how quickly we can deal with the central rent account.

MR. ROTH: Madam Chair, this is Robert Roth.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. ROTH: I was wondering. Since the State is clearly going to have some savings from this, whether or not it's making any provisions for pilots to Hamilton, payments in lieu of taxes.

MR. MORTIMER: --(indiscernible) to look at what impact we have and deal with the appropriate reimbursement to the communities.

MR. ROTH: Thank you.

MR. ANNESE: Madam Chair?

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. ANNESE: This is Tony Annese.

I'd like to ask a question, through you, and actually I'm going to ask you to direct this question to whomever you wish. And that is, I would like to have a statement for the record about how this bond will impact the total debt of the State.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay. Anybody here would like to volunteer for that?

MR. CHIANESE: This is Chuck Chianese.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. CHIANESE: The annualized debt service on $55 million based on an average coupon as of yesterday's calculation of approximately 4.7 percent is approximately $4.3 million annually.

MS. MOLNAR: Good. Does that answer your question?

MR. ANNESE: How about the overall debt of the State? How will that impact that -- regarding how much is being retired, and are we in the guidelines that we've been working with for the past several years?

MS. MOLNAR: Well, these would be Authority bonds, correct?

MR. CHIANESE: Correct, which would not impact.

MS. MOLNAR: So you want to know the impact on the Authority or the whole State impact?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: In the way that we consider debt in front of the Commission, obviously, this would add $55 million to the debt. However, I'm not sure what the net increase is. We haven't done the analysis regarding how much Authority debt we're retiring that would offset this increase. That's an analysis we can do in the future and provide to the Commission. We don't have that information right now.

MR. ANNESE: Okay, I understand.

Then, where would the revenue source come from to repay these debts?

MR. CHIANESE: That's subject through direct rental payments by the State of New Jersey by General Fund appropriation.

MR. ANNESE: Okay, I understand.

I thank you.

MS. MOLNAR: Any other questions?

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Madam Chair, Assemblyman Romano.

While I have some of the questions that -- raised by some of my colleagues here--

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Originally when we spoke, we talked about the troops, the Headquarters, and the Communication Center project.

MS. MOLNAR: Right.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: And I think everybody will recall the immediate need for such a facility, obviously, since they have tied the Revenue section, if you will, along with that. While I do have some concerns, as raised by some of my colleagues, I will support this because I think that the Troop C element is of most importance to the State of New Jersey and its inhabitants.

MS. MOLNAR: Now, this Troop C in Central New Jersey, it's my understanding, it would cover as far north as where I am up in Westfield and around the area.

MR. MORTIMER: Madam Chair, this is Dave Mortimer.

What this will do is it will take the present troop barracks that are located in Princeton, Hightstown, and Allenwood and consolidate them into one area. One of the reasons we've highlighted the location in Hamilton that we have is because of the State Police analysis that says, by being that close to 195 and 130, they will either maintain or enhance response times.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay. Good to know.

Any other questions or comments? (no response)

If not, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the resolution.

Is that how we should do it, vote on the resolution?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: I think I would make the suggestion that we read the resolution into the record, and then we can vote.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay, Paul, could you do that for me.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: "Whereas, pursuant to the New Jersey Building Authority Act, Public Law 1981, Chapter 120, amended, the New Jersey Building Authority is authorized to undertake projects as defined in the Act; and

"Whereas, the Authority, prior to undertaking any project whose cost is estimated to exceed $100,000, shall comply with the provisions of the Act including the preparation of a project report and the submission of the report to the Commission on Capital Budgeting and Planning for its review and findings; and

"Whereas, the New Jersey Building Authority decided that it is desirable and in the best interest of the Authority to undertake the Division of Revenue-State Police Troop C Headquarters and Communications Center project to consolidate and improve services; and

"Whereas, the New Jersey Building Authority prepared the Division of Revenue-State Police Troop C Headquarters and Communications Center project report, approved it by resolution, and presented it and the associated materials to the Commission for its review and findings; and

"Whereas, the Commission finds the Division of Revenue-State Police Troop C Headquarters and Communications Center project to be necessary and convenient to meet the needs of the State agencies which are to utilize the project; and

"Whereas, the project is consistent with the purpose and intent of the Capital Improvement Plan and meets the criteria established by the Commission for its approval of State capital projects;

"Now, therefore, be it resolved, that the New Jersey Commission on Capital Budgeting and Planning recommends approval of the Division of Revenue-State Police Troop C Headquarters and Communications Center project to the Governor and the Legislature."

MS. MOLNAR: Thank you.

Do I hear a motion and a second?

MS. VILLANE: I make a motion that the resolution be approved. It's Maggie Villane.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

Do I hear a second?

MR. FERRARA: Mike Ferrara seconds.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

Can we take the roll?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: The resolution is passed unanimously, Madam Chair.

MS. MOLNAR: All right.

Now, before everybody hangs up, can we get the minutes approved? Do you want to do that--

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Sure.

MS. MOLNAR: --before we lose our quorum?

I believe you all got this voluminous package in the mail.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: If I could just interrupt for a second here, Mr. Chianese would like to make a few remarks.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

MR. CHIANESE: Madam Chair, I just want to thank you and members of the Commission for your favorable consideration on behalf of the Building Authority Board.

Thank you.

MS. MOLNAR: Oh, thank you.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay. If we could get back to the minutes now.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay. Do I hear a motion to approve them or--

MR. ROTH: Madam Chair, could we vote on them separately because I'll be abstaining on two of them. This is Robert Roth.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay. Do you want to do that?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay.

MS. MOLNAR: Anyone else have a comment? (no response)

All right. We'll vote on the October 2, 1998 minutes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay.

Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

Okay, next would be October 30, 1998 minutes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

November 20, 1998 minutes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

December 11, 1998 minutes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

And last but not least, February 26, 1999 minutes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Annese.

MR. ANNESE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Roth.

MR. ROTH: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Senator Kenny.

SENATOR KENNY: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Blee.

ASSEMBLYMAN BLEE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Assemblyman Romano.

ASSEMBLYMAN ROMANO: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Mortimer.

MR. MORTIMER: Abstain.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Villane.

MS. VILLANE: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Mr. Ferrara.

MR. FERRARA: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Ms. Molnar.

MS. MOLNAR: Yes.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Okay. They all pass, Madam Chair.

MS. MOLNAR: Thank you.

Is there any other business, Paul, to come before the Commission?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Not that I have.

MS. VILLANE: Paul.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Excuse me, Ms. Villane has something she'd like to--

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

MS. VILLANE: This is Maggie Villane.

I would like to ask if the next time we do one of these, if all the members of the Capital Budgeting and Planning Commission can receive a copy of the project report that was prepared by the Building Authority so that everyone has the same information?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: It was submitted to all Commission members.

MS. VILLANE: I did not receive a copy of that.

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: We can discuss that.

MS. VILLANE: Okay.

Thank you.

MS. MOLNAR: That's a good suggestion. We'll make sure that everyone gets one.

Any of the members have any comments or questions or other business? (no response)

If not, I want to thank you all for taking the time again, and hopefully, we'll be meeting early summer, late spring, perhaps, if anything comes up.

Thank you. That's it.

Right, Paul?

MR. SHIDLOWSKI: Yes.

MS. MOLNAR: Okay.

Thank you very much.



(MEETING CONCLUDED)